It has a slight bang when you put the car in reverse so i already have motor mounts on order but i didnt notice any bangs. Initially i was going to go alone and just source a replacement head and be done with it, however instead i worked with mike kojima to come jump with a. So dont get confused with all the extra stuff you see attached to it. Luis leitaos giant auto salvages kseries powered all motor honda civic eg on the dyno at top secret import tuning in newark, nj. It limits the usable responsespeedpower of any engine dyno. Also then oem reliability of the k vs a fully built engine. Welcome to virtual engine dyno the ultimate in engine. Hello everyone well my situation is that i am going to be getting the skunk2 stage 2 cams along with other valvetrain upgrades and raising my compression a bit. All motor k20k24 300 whp build honda acura k20a k24a.
This motor also comes with an available 5 speed transmission and 5 speed auto. We take jeff evans, owner of evans tuning, years of experience working with the hondata kpro system and turn it into a systematic, stepbystep tuning process so that you can properly tune any engine or combination of parts that come your way. K series all motor k24a budget 300whp build part 1. Standalone tuning systems dyno tuning engine tuning. The k is a significant departure from the triedandtrue b series in several ways. Nov 03, 2008 im not having a pissing match about k20 s the problem isnt the motor its the driveline layoutits fwd so all the power in the world isnt doesnt really matter. I paid 850 for my engine and tranny it was 60kmiles and i got to drive it before i removed it. The type r cams you are running are not all that aggressive, it would be worth. Sgr performance k20 swapped honda civic on the dyno. If this was around 4 years ago, you bet id definitely go for the kseries. But for my car, and when trying to win national championships i find the thrust curve intercepts by gear and allow for those. Just recently finished building a k20 24 motor myself with the mods listed below. K20 is pricy and the needed extras to swap are every expensive.
K20 head swap parts list needed 9th generation honda civic. Hondata fully tunable ecus for allmotor and forced. For further details, please call and speak with a sales associate. Jun 01, 2017 alot of all motor builds making over 300whp, pretty simple motor builds getting 240260hp even. K20 k24 build with dyno chart hi all, ive not been very active on the forums in the last year whilst ive been away from the car and the track but now im back as you might have seen as im selling lots of bits in the marketplace forum that are left over from my recent build. Last dyno run was only to 6950rpms cause it was just to see some base numbers and there was only 400kms on the motor.
All motor rsx hey everyone im just finishing up my k24a2 swap and really only went into this with a rough idea on what to spend but im going to show you exactly what it will cost to do this swap. Yourdyno is a complete data acquisition system for brake dynos and inertia dynos. Despite all the hype about this motor ive found very little information and doing all motor. A turbo 1zz at 220hp will put down a 190200ftlbs of torque and thats at 34000rpms.
The results of a dyno run can be shown in a table that lists the engine rpm and the horsepower produced at each 50 rpm interval. The standard pistons show a build of carbon deposits as a result of heavy oil consumption. Crazy gear ratios and insanely low weight is a lot more potent than a 3800 pound 380whp tank. Stock bottom end k20, stage 2 cams, and vp m1 fuel has this lightweight honda civic into the 10s. So your saying i should ditch my bseries and get a k20a. A 250hp k20 motor puts down what 160180ftlbs of torque. But all that is just guessing without a clear engine setup, claibration, a wot log and the troque lines in a graph. This is maybe going to cost 1500 less than a kswap after selling all the bseries parts. Hondata kpro is the go to system for tuning kseries equipped vehicles like the rsx and ep3, along with kseries swapped vehicles. R18 vs k20 dyno graphs page 3 8th generation honda. However, for all you annoying people who like to ask tons. My question is what are the ups and downs to having a k24 block with a k20 head. The first category includes fully tunable systems for bseries, dseries, hseries and fseries engines. It would mean a fully forged engine pistons, rods, cams, valvetrain and then management.
So i got the brand new alpha series header by skunk2 and i decided it would be a good idea to do a before and after dyno test to see what the header can do since its brand new to the market. Though this setup almost mirrors nadys motor, its actually quite different because of the parts being used. We are a participant in the amazon services llc associates program, an. It includes all electronics, sensors and free, easy to use software to make your dyno come to life, whether you have an existing dyno or want to build your own. I had to buy a complete engine though as the bottom ends never come up mugen facelift ftw. K20k24 hybrid engine build guide tech articles and more. Then swap the k20 oil pump on and all the k20 sensors. As part of this honda k20 engine build the cylinder head is removed exposing the cylinder block deck face and piston crowns. That cant be right, its like someones stripped r18 and a k20 with 4 passengers and full trunk of luggage went to dyno at the sametime. The engine has some strange designs in it, the physical attributes of the internals would make some people shat themselves, but it seems to be working pretty good. Performance trends has been doing racing software since 1986, so we know what engine builders need and how to make it easy. A stock k20 with with ips cams, intake manifold, kpro engine managment, burns header and little else will make 270 whp. Sep 26, 2017 good friend got his all motor hatch tuned and made great power at altitude. In just a few hours brian gillespie and his crew reassembled the k20 motor with todas goodies.
How to get 270300 whp na jdm itr thread starter evoix4me. With just that small comparison, many will argue that the 2. I noticed and learned a lot with my hub dyno that cars doesnt have a lot of drivetrain losses as people have been say always. With dyno pros advanced windows software, dyna run v3, operating the dynamometer is simple and user friendly.
Headphone users turn it down he isnt messing around. Jan 12, 2004 the best streetable all motor b series engines are only putting down 240250whp at the most, and thats with some pretty trick mods and really good tuning, not to mention a good amount of luck. With my current set up based on other peoples builds i was anticipating making. The above paragraph notwithstanding, one unique specification will lock you in. Op, is that 251hp 194lbft dyno sheet with the stock k20z3 cams. K20 arrows crank and rods, my jenvey trumpets are 330mm from the inlet cam cline, with a btb exhaust. How is the r18 only 4 whp short of the 140 bhp, and the k20 is like 28 whp short of the 197 bhp.
My car at the time was also having some engine issues so i parked it until the engine work was complete. Welcome to the future of dyno simulation software virtual engine dyno is a computer software program used by engine shops and performance enthusiasts to simulate building, modifying, tuning and dyno testing automotive engines before component purchases and engine assembly. No all i did was put the k20 head on the the k24a3 bottom end with a new k24 headgasket. Team 20s all motor itb k20k24 eg project hondaswap.
Best cams for k20k24 frank 8th generation honda civic forum. I put on a thermal 3 exhaust yesterday, and it made quite an improvement over the previous smsp 2. Has anyone here done an all motor build on a jdm b18c type r. But yes, spend 57k on a bolt on supercharger and you have a 5600 whp mustang that can get deep into the 10s and lower with the right setup. I had the thing dyno tuned with inlinepro and currently working with vit last week and am a little disappointed with the numbers. They are also ideal for emissionresearch chassis dyno installations, where both loading and motoring capabilities must be provided for. The software soon becomes your dyno and dynomax 2010s feature depth makes it the best at any price. Kmod egek kseries hood exit sidewinder hot side turbo kit. Dynomax 2010 the ultimate dynamometer control, dataacquisition, and analysis software, puts an advanced dynamometer lab onto your windows pc or laptop. Dollar for dollar, every investment you make in a k motor will yield better benefits than a b. Best cams for k20 k24 frank 8th generation honda civic forum. The goal was to show off what can be done with a stock k24a2 engine 20042008 tsx in the miata chassis, as well as test out a couple new parts. The second includes reflashes and fully programmable systems for kseries engines. It all comes down to what you want from your motor and car.
What you seems to be missing is that you are talking flywheel horsepower in the k20 and we are talkin wheel horsepower in the 1zz. Sgr tuned bmw m5i tuning packages available for all bmw models. All software is free for life and you will never be charged for standard software upgrades, if you purchased your dynamometer from dyna pro or one of its authorised distributers. Ups and usps orders may take up to a week to ship out. Producing quality computer tools for racers and engine builders since 1986. As with all things i can really only base my recommendations on my observations. You will be amazed to find all the powerful, yet easytouse features in our software, and surprised that we can still keep our costs so low. K24 ek9 dyno run at kirkbride jdm dyno youtube on jdm dyno at kirkbride in cumbria. This engine shares the same downfalls with the k24a4 engines as the pistons will contact the k20 cylinder head.
K20k24 on the dyno jdm ek9 honda civic type r forum. Stock bottom end k20, stage 2 cams, and vp m1 fuel has this lightweight honda civic into the 10s all motor. I know the honda k20 is good, but 290 bhp from any 2l na engine is not easy. All motor k series technical discussion the point of this thread is to compare dyno tuned charts to compare low, mid and top end gains to benefit helping us all understand where power was made and using what mods. The solid line is from today 92 degrees in the dyno garage and the dotted line is the old 2. Aem ems v2 plug and play engine management system honda. If we do not pick up when you call, please try us again after a minimum of fifteen minutes. If the tsx internals work on the z7 block, i think well be seeing all motor, 300whp 9th gen builds pretty soon. Build your own kmod engine, these kits are offered in 4 stages. Hondata modifies standard honda engine computers ecus, adding features and expanding the capabilities of the ecu e. The table can also be used to manually create test runs by entering data from other dynos or to create an ideal run for comparison with other test runs.
K20k24 oem hybrid 238 whp 8th generation honda civic. We promise not to use your email address for anything but exclusive updates from. Standalone tuning systems when youre looking for the ultimate in performance, these stock ecu replacements are what youre looking for. Nov 23, 2006 in just a few hours brian gillespie and his crew reassembled the k20 motor with todas goodies. All engine orders may take anywhere from two to three weeks to ship out. These include dyno testing software and electronics, vehicle data loggers, camtest stands, valvespring testers, flowbench electronics and options, and much more. Simulate your way to optimized power and performance hot rod. Dont get me wrong vit, but i think he said is a k20 head in our block, i assume he is talking about the k24z7 engine.
Just for kicks, heres a boring old stock crv k24 motor that you can find easily and cheap at your local wreckers with a turbo kit added. All motor potential rsx type s honda and acura car forums. International customers from the furthest corners of the earth use brewed motorsports tuning services, both live dyno tuning as well as etunes with full dyno results. Ians k20 dc2 dyno results 1012 team integra forums. Racing is all about area under the horsepower curve. Tell me right quick which intake manifold will go best on my k20. You can even add a standalone to control timing, electronic fuel injection, and other engine functions on earlier model vehicles that dont have an ecu.
Hondata fully tunable ecus for all motor and forced induction honda and acuras. Honda k20 intake manifold dyno faceoff tegiwa imports. So from the start the swap is going to be different for a type s. Basically to make a b20 perform the same as a k20 will not be cheap. Well send you raw engine tech articles, news, features, and videos every week from enginelabs. The build up of dark carbon deposits on the piston crowns is a result of heavy oil consumption which is the reason for the freshenup. All brewed tuning services also come with specialized customer training to teach the ins and outs of the aem tuner software, providing the customer with the knowledge needed to. Additional horsepower correction factor questions, answers.
Motoring ac dynamometer systems and dyno mite drives. Stock k20 civic makes big power on the dyno youtube. We manufacturer all major components in house saving you thirdparty markups of competitors. Mark brauning, 2004 all motor champion, posted the dyno in honda tech. In addition to vtec, the k has variable cam timing. Im banking on at least 220whp for the best all motor 2zzs. Apr 01, 2008 on the engine dyno, a header swap takes all of five minutes or so, which is why we chose to conduct testing on such a dyno in the first place. Im pretty sure there have already been k20 24 headers on the market for a while now. Has anyone used any aftermarket cams with a good mapper and what was there gains, did you prefer them to standard cams and how much.